June 11– 12 noon–What happened here? A North Oakland resident posted a video to Facebook yesterday that shows  what appear to be 4 Oakland police officers engaged in tying up and restraining what turns out to be a very small boy, a young teen who probably doesn’t weigh more than 80 pounds.  As passersby were shooed away outside Cafe Dejena on Martin Luther King and 40th, Oakland PD bound the child and tossed him into a squad car.  His crime? Reportedly, he “stole some cookies,” according to the woman who posted the video on Facebook.

However, a discussion with Oakland Police Department staffers on Tuesday, June 11,  tells a different story.  According to OPD staffers, the young boy was arrested while in possession of stolen property and was caught outside the premises where he’d broken in and taken “multiple electronic devices,” including a laptop still in a black computer bag. According to the OPD officer Oakland Local spoke with, the boy was wrapped and restrained because he’d slipped the handcuffs he was initially restrained with more than once and was using them to try to break the window of the police cruiser and get away.

According to our officer, there is no OPD policy that hold off from wrapping minors who was agitated, trying to elude custody, and acting agitated, as this young man was.  OPD added that the boy was taken to the station house, booked, and released to the custody of a parent.

In our earlier post on this story, OL asked: Did the treatment fit the (alleged) crime?  Is this standard operating procedure for Oakland police who handle youth? What happened here and were Oakland cops truly restraining a small child and putting him into a squad car, as the video suggests?

Knowing what we know now, we’d ask whether it makes sense to have the same policies in place for minors as for adults. Are kids always charged the same as adults for criminal offenses? If no, does it make sense to restrain and hold them in the same way?  Even knowing this child was caught with stolen goods, the video of the cops holding this child down on the ground are distressing.

Update: The same poster has put another video, taken moments before the first one, up on Facebook as well. View here

Update 2:  We have a statement about this incident from Chris Bolton, Lieutenant for District 2, Oakland Police:

In this case, officers were dispatched to the area due to multiple 911 calls.  A juvenile was reported to have broken into a residence and had been located by citizens.  Officers arrived and investigated, speaking with the 13year-old without initially placing him in handcuffs, a decision that may have been primarily related to his age.  The investigation continued, and officers reported that the juvenile was in possession of two Apple laptops; when the juvenile could not provide the screen savers or passwords, officers elected to handcuff him and place him in the rear of a police vehicle pending further investigation.

The juvenile escaped the handcuffs multiple times and continued to kick and hit the interior police car doors and windows with feet, hands, and the unattached handcuffs each time officers attempted to safely secure him– multiple attempts were made, and each attempt was unsuccessful. He reportedly spit upon officers as they attempted to re-handcuff him, and kicked one officer in the face.  Due to the continued threat of escape, and injury to himself and officers in continuing to attempt escape, we elected to utilize an approved WRAP – a restraint device (WRAP) used by law enforcement in cases where application of handcuffs are ineffective and subjects continue to be a danger to themselves or others.  By policy, it is a temporary restraining device which immobilizes a subject’s body and restricts the subject’s ability to kick or do harm. The WRAP increases officers’ safety, the restrained person’s safety, and reduces the risk of liability due to injuries. The WRAP minimizes the time required to secure a subject safely and prepare the subject for transport. It requires four officers to properly, and safely, apply the device and move the subject.  In this case, the juvenile’s behavior was so alarming that officers took extra steps to evaluate his condition by summoning mental health professionals for assistance.

The juvenile was not harmed or injured and, after meeting with and discussing the circumstances with his mother, he was released pending further investigation for possession of stolen property, vandalism (damage to the police vehicle), and battering an officer in the performance of his or her duties.

We would not normally provide this amount or type of information regarding an open investigation, especially where a juvenile is involved; but considering the perception this incident carries, without benefit of all information, I wanted to provide as much as possible.  It is our  intent and obligation to quickly respond to the scene of reported burglaries, thoroughly investigate circumstances, and safely detain or arrest suspects where possible – regardless of age.  I’m hopeful that this insight assists our community with understanding this incident and the daily, difficult choices and circumstances in which our officers find themselves.”

 

About The Author

Susan Mernit is editor & publisher of Oakland Local (oaklandlocal.com) a news & community hub for Oakland, CA. A former VP at AOL & Netscape, & former! Yahoo Senior Director, Mernit was consulting program manager for The Knight News Challenge, 2008-09; was a 2012 Stanford Carlos McClatchy Fellow; and is a board adviser to The Center for Health Reporting at USC, Annenberg School of Journalism. She has consulted with many non-profit organizations on strategy, product development and social media/engagement, including Salon.com, TechSoup Global, Public Radio International and the Institute for Policy Studies/Economic Hardship Reporting Project, led by Barbara Ehrenreich.

53 Responses

  1. Aydin Aquafer

    Good job, OPD. Stealing cookies may not sound like a big deal, but it truly is a slippery slope from petty theft to more serious crimes. If this youngster doesn’t have anyone in his life to teach him right from wrong, then hopefully this event will teach him a lesson. Assuming the boy did break some law, I’m with the police 100%. More scenes like this would go a long way towards rescinding Oakland’s title of Robbery Capital of America.

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    • mpdrip

      I’m all for giving the kid a little scare and stern lecture but that’s not what this is. What they’ve done here is essentially verified a perception within the community that the police overreact and resort to violence thus escalating situations not defusing them. The kid stole a cookie. He may have even resisted. But the level of aggressiveness by the cops is over the top. These very public displays by the cops are designed to intimidate the community.

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  2. SC

    This is awful. The OPD, and all PD’s, need to be trained and encouraged to use non-violent methods of restrainment whenever possible. 1 police officer could have easily held the boy in place and then placed him in a squad car. Why are we focused on punishment instead of rehabilitation? It saddens me to see grown adults treating a small child who who has committed a non-violent crime like a serious adult offender. Act like adults and teach respect and compassion instead of physically instilling fear and resentment.

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    • Elle

      did you all read the same article i did?? cause this isnt about stealing a cookie, he broke into someones house and stole 2 computers….and when he got caught he threw a tantrum and tried to escape. ive had my house broken into by 13 year old kids and they got away with much more than 2 computers. i feel no sympathy. if you are going to commit a crime…you run the risk of being caught and and youre probably not going to be treated like an angel when you do. have you ever tried to restrain someone who is throwing a fit? they kick, bite, scratch, and generally flail about…its not that simple for just one person to cover all those areas.

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  3. greenkozi

    that was seriously disturbing.

    i’m guessing (though not defending) that something other than theft was going on. what does the patch on the back of the woman’s uniform say? it might give some clue.

    on the other hand- 4 officers literally binding up a small kid is one of the grossest things i’ve seen in a long time.

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  4. Seamus

    PD will only do that with someone who can’t be control due to punching, kicking, biting, etc. That is, this was not done because of cookie-taking. It was done because the minor was non-controllable.

    For example, if you fight with cops at the scene of a parking ticket, what ensues is not because of the parking violation.

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    • Oakland Atty

      Yes, the child’s behavior was disgusting. OPD’s behavior was appropriate, however.

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    • sic

      cops did the right thing – most people don’t seem to realize this, but passersby, including other children, see this stuff being done to other kids and eventually the word is gonna get out that, even if your parents wont teach you right from wrong, your local law enforcement will. These videos, reprehensible and unnecessary as the action may be considering age – it’s a lesson to be learned.

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  5. Mt. Crunksuvious

    I saw the original post on facebook earlier today and decided not to say anything due to lack of facts. Annnnnd surpise! The updated facts show the “kid” committed a crime and tried to escape. What’s truly disturbing is all the people that jumped to his defense simply because he wasn’t a fully grown man, because it was OPD, and because someone “said’ he stole cookies. Blame it all you want on the cops, one of the biggest problems in Oakland are all the knee-jerk reactions to completely fabricated situations.

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    • Zunzie

      I did the same as you. Oakland Local always shoots first and then figures out what happens.

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    • jennyfromtheblock

      the electronic devices found on the kid belongs to my organization – ironically our programs service oakland youth like him. i am glad the police apprehended the kid and retrieved our computers.

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      • iloveoakland

        I’m sorry to hear that jennyfromtheblock. I’m glad you got your computers back. I also work with young people in Oakland. It’s an uphill battle, but we do what we do because we believe that change is possible. Thanks for the work you do!!

  6. Rebecca Luisa Ruiz-Lichter

    I filmed this video.

    Multiple witnesses in the cafe said that this child took a cookie or cake and started eating it. At that point, the cafe owners called the cops.

    When I arrived, he was in the back of the car. He was screaming in pain. Why not just call his parents? Why tie him up? Why physically push me away so I cannot film? I don’t care what he stole–the police should never be allowed to tie up small children.

    Witnesses say that the cops kicked this little boy. Ask yourselves, would the police do this to a little blond girl in Montclair? I think not. This is how police treat Black and Latino children. This is how poor children are treated by opd

    If a parent did this, the cops would call child protective services. But the police are allowed to abuse our children without recourse?! It’s despicable. they should all be fired

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    • Colin

      In general, 911 calls regarding a cookie being stolen aren’t accepted, so we can rule out the notion that that is what happened.

      I think there is a reasonable and serious discussion to be had about what we expect from law enforcement when they deal with young kids. However, by spreading the story that he stole a cookie and the brutish police thugs showed up and violently punished him, you’ve pretty well ruined the chances of that conversation taking place. You’ve also undermined whatever credibility you might had in relaying the facts about the situation, based on what you claim witnesses said. And to top it off, you’ve also asserted that this child’s treatment is directly related to his race, something else that you cannot back up with any evidence.

      And that’s unfortunate, because like I said, there’s an important conversation to be had here.

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    • M. Spinner

      Thank you Rebecca for filming this and thank you for sharing with the public. It is very important that these kinds of issues are discussed publicly. It is completely distressing to see a child treated in this manner no matter what stolen goods were found in his possession and no matter if he was kicking and screaming. And, Mt. Crunksuvious, people have knee jerk reactions to this kind of incident because police brutality happens ALL THE TIME, especially to poor people and people of color. That is not a fabricated story. That is a story that has been told again and again in this city.

      It is important that this conversation continues and we keep asking questions about what is appropriate behavior of our police force – and our entire justice system for that matter – that we examine and re-examine and re-examine and re-examine the racism and classicism that is imbedded in our so-called justice system.

      This is a child. Adults are supposed to protect children. So props to you Rebecca for putting this out there. Props for keeping your eye out for the well being of children in our community. I don’t trust our police force with that task.

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    • Matt Chambers

      Rebecca, if we’re going to generalize then I’d say a little blond girl in Montclair Village would be accompanied by an adult. If she were not and then broke into a residence, stole two computers, shoplifted, resisted arrest, then tried to damage public property -I bet she’d get tased and sedated because no one would know what to think… is this really a child… or actually a small adult on bath salts?

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    • Anita

      You were there and spoke to many witnesses. I believe you. I would dearly love to hear the boy’s story….perhaps someday. PEACE

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  7. Rebecca Luisa Ruiz-Lichter

    I don’t care what this child stole or if he flailed his tiny limbs around (as children often do when they have tantrums), the police behavior is outragous.

    If you watch the other videos of this abuse i posted, you will see the police pushing me away so i cannot observe. We pay them more than 40% of the budget and my tax dollars dont even give me the right to observe them? It is my legal right to observe. It is clear i am not interferring.

    They reacted so aggressively to being filmed because they wanted to hide their monstrous behavior from the public

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    • Zunzie

      He stole two laptops and god knows what else. RESIDENTS ID’d him. Then he slipped out of handcuffs and spat, kicked, etc.

      But yeah, OPD suck. All their fault.

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    • person

      The citizens of Oakland, and the laws care if the “child” stole. If you read the article, it states that the child stole electronics, not cookies, and that he repeatedly escaped his cuffs, kicked an officer in the face, and spit on them. Something tells me if he stole YOUR laptop you wouldn’t be so sympathetic.

      Facts are facts. Good job OPD, and hopefully this twerp learned his lesson.

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    • todd

      Wow. Your apologist behavior regard crime in Oakland is a major part of the problem in our community. You’ve established that nothing this juvenile has done, in your view, warrants being apprehended by the police. I fully understand why the police were pushing you away: you want the criminal to seem the victim. A reasonable person would have posted their video then awaited the facts.

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    • Kwhiting

      How would you feel is that “child” broke into your house and stole your laptop and I-Phone. I can guarantee that you would demand that the police do something to get your property back.

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  8. isthisnecessary

    Rolls eyes…

    Thank you OPD for 1.) Doing your job, despite being disrespected by passers by and a flaming liberal with an iPhone. 2.) Acting within the law to ensure that this emotional and disrespectful child could be SAFELY transported to OPD, 3.) Demonstrating that special treatment, regardless of sex, age, and race should not be considered when dealing with CRIMINALS, and lastly, 4.) for discouraging this young man’s career in crime through acting forcefully enough to cause him (hopefully) embarrassment, a little pain, and a lot of discomfort.

    To Miss Videographer… jumping to conclusions regarding anything crime related is something that OPD is repeatedly blamed for…this time the blame is on you. NO, he didn’t steal a cookie…multiple computers worth thousands of dollars is a serious crime and indicative of someone who has been committing burglaries for some time. He deserved what he got.

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  9. sunwoo

    i am not one to try youth of color in the media, or take the police statements as facts without hearing from multiple sources, including the target of the opd assualt and slander. there is too much ease in which people justify the policing of youth of color, and forget the first and foremost, we are witnessing the physical restraint of a young person by 4 enourmous, armed adults who have license to kill according to the state. some justify the escalation of force by the adults because this child is trying to escape, without putting into context how fear and survival operate given the obvious power dynamics and resources being utilized against you.

    if people want to feel safer about the larger issue of economic insecurity, we have to look at the big picture here and ask how we are equipped as a city to provide education, youth programs, jobs, etcetra to work comprehensively to provide teach youth how to respect themselves and the community. unfortunately, the city officials and schools will remind us that we don’t have the resources, since so many resources are siphoned into policing and bailing out banks.

    unfortunately, it is easier to scapegoat than to acknowledge the long term structural needs that go into creating genuine safety. and meanwhile you have tools like the oakland attorney coding class race and power issues with moral bullshit about what is and isn’t appropriate. policing tactics in oakland are far too disrespectful, tramautic, oppressive, ineffective to justify the costs. and all these resources will not teach that young person anything or address class in our community.

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    • Paul

      Sunwoo, it’s not the responsibility of the city to teach this child not to steal and to respect the community. That’s his parent’s job.

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    • iloveoakland

      i agree with Paul! it’s his parents, and also the community as a whole who keep each other accountable… it really does take a village!

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  10. Al Osorio

    Ms Ruiz-Lichter makes a valid point, in all but the most egregious cases police behavior is dictated by the surrounding community, affluence the major factor. Black/brown communities overwhelmingly suffer from oppressive police tactics, typically extending from felonious adult conduct to recalcitrant children. As she indicates, the treatment given to a white child in the suburbs committing whatever act this child is accused of would almost certainly not reach the level shown in the video.
    One other thing to keep in mind is that many of those who commented did so with the assumption that the police are telling the truth. In point of fact, police lie on a regular basis. Reports, testimony, interviews – all are made to cast the police in the best possible light and their intended target in the worst. I would suggest it’s almost a reflex, they automatically portray themselves as victims, fearing for their lives and being battered about by 80 pound children.
    It’s entirely possible the child may have been in the possession of stolen electronic goods, regardless, the police behavior seems to be an overreaction, in keeping with a police dept which uses an armored personnel carrier and swat teams for sweeps thru housing developments that result in no one even being arrested.

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  11. Rebecca you were not there for the full story

    You are like an ambulance chaser. You know, with enough searching anyone can find evidence to support either side. Kids, even a 13 year old, can be just as violent as an adult. You know….kids kill too, or is that a myth as far as you are concerned? Police are there for the safety of the public…all public….not just a kid found to have stolen goods

    I would have blocked you too had I known you had your own agenda against the OPD. You are just as bad…

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  12. i love oakland

    my first thought was “where is his mom?” (or parent/caregiver/guardian????) on one hand, i’m glad OPD was being filmed, because it could have possibly descaled what could possibly happen… on the other hand, the kid was doing something he wasn’t supposed to, and broke the law, and they i think OPD did what they were supposed to in this situation. We need to NOT give OPD such a hard time, AND we need to really focus on youth development so we don’t get kids like him running around!

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  13. Matt Chambers

    I watched the videos and read what this boy is accused of doing. The only people I’m upset with are the boys parents and the community that fostered his behavior.

    Unlike the video taker this little kid seems use to the situation. It’s very telling he was not calling out for his parents, guardian, or friends.

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  14. getreal

    Rebecca!! WAKE UP! this kid is a thief and was uncontrollable! A restraint is NOT cruel and you and others in the O need to wake up!! There are and have been many home/car burglaries in this area done by teenage kids..You want to act like an animal then you can be treated like an animal.. Cookies are not the issue here , it is the lack of respect for his fellow citizens by robbing them and the lack of respect for police who are doing their job and a lack of sense from people like you who blame the cops. I am pretty sure that there are NOT many “little blonde girls” in Montclair breaking into houses and cars stealing stuff but I bet you if there were and she was acting the way this youngster was when detained they would need to wrap her too.. get real

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  15. Ted Voth Jr

    It was only a Black child, after all– you b*st*rds. ‘If the cops do it, that means it’s legal…’

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  16. Melissa Merin

    1) There was no crime here. There was a Black boy and an alleged crime. There was no “investigation”; some people claimed that this boy committed a crime, fit a description, whatever. Last time some bystanders claimed that a Black kid committed a crime in Oakland, he was shot in the face by a trigger happy cop and – surprise, surprise – proven totally and completely innocent of anything (well, there is that whole “being Black thing…”)

    2) Even if the kid was trying to escape for whatever reason AND clearly was not a threat to anyone, then why not let him go?

    3) The police say he didn’t have the passwords to the computers he had. The police can not search a child without probable cause which they didn’t have (aside from, again, some bystander saying he did it – that’s not proof! Not even in this maze of a legal system!)

    4) At the end of the day, they let the kid go, which indicates that they didn’t have enough to hold him in the first place.

    Cops escalate situations all the time. It is only when they’re caught on camera that they even bother to sort-of justify their out of control behavior.

    Two laptops or twenty or a case of cookies, nobody deserves to be abused like that kid was yesterday.

    Keep on telling yourself that the kid deserved it though. Whatever keeps y’all sleeping through the night.

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    • todd

      Wow Melissa. You know no facts yet have all the answers. And love the way you trying making this a racial issue.

      1) The tragedy you allude to was not the last time a bystander accused a juvenile of a crime in Oakland. And not reason to give all juveniles accused of a crime a free pass.
      2) The police have the lawful right to detain a suspect for questioning. And if that suspect attempts to escape, the police have the lawful right to use as much force as necessary to maintain control of the suspect.
      3) A person pointing to another saying that person stole their goods is probable cause. Proof is needed to convict, not question. You seem very confused by this.
      4) The juvenile was released pending further investigation, which proves that if he would have complied with the lawful orders of the police officers, this never would have escalated as far as it did.
      You seem to have a convoluted view of right and wrong. Or a problem with reading comprehension. Or a misconception of ones rights when dealing with the police. Quite possibly all three.

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  17. Jamez

    ummm.
    does anyone read these day or just watch video and make presumptions.

    Even if you did just watch the video, what was so horrible? they were not using violence? the police were pretty calm and gentle if you ask me, and they also did not throw the kid in the car? Again, pretty calm and gentle?

    Stole a cookie? stole labtops and broke into somenes home, i dont care how old you are, if you are old enough to do that then you should get the crap scared out of you, your a criminal. Maybe they can scare him straight.

    And if you read the article instead of just watching the video you would learn he broke out of the handcuffs 2x’s before and used them to try and break they window of the police car…Poor child…give me a break.

    OPD, screw it,,,let people break into houses and steal peoples crap..then maybe they will care to know whats really going on.

    I may not b privy to any history with OPD since i live on the east coast, but only looking at this incident you people crying fou look foolish.

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  18. Max Allstadt

    Rebecca Luisa Ruiz-Lichter’s facebook posting for this video includes the following comment from her: “I’m really missing Dorner right now”, referring to a cop who killed other cops and also one of those cops’ daughter and son-in-law.

    That should give you an idea of whether or not she should be taken seriously as a legitimate source for accurate info about this incident.

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  19. Aydin Aquafer

    Enablers of criminal behavior like Rebecca and her ilk cannot be reasoned with and are a major part of the crime problem in Oakland. They immediately yell brutality anytime a police officer so much as touches a person. Then, when the full details reveal that the perp’s extreme behavior gave the police no choice but to use force, they quickly pull out the race victim card to excuse antisocial behavior.

    Hey enablers, here’s an idea: spend less time looking for racism and brutality in every nook and cranny, and more time teaching ethical behavior to troubled youth. No matter what race, all kids need to learn how to treat elders with respect, earn a living through education and hard work, and yes, pull up those damn pants and have some respect for yourself and your community. Tough love, yes, but it worked for me and countless others, and is more beneficial to our young wannabe thugs than the constant excuses and coddling.

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  20. OAKLAND-ANON

    For those of you that are with the cops and their behavior, I couldn’t agree with you more! Sure it’s just merely a stolen cookie now, which most would agree that would be best resolved with a simple slap on the wrist for bad behavior. What they don’t see is the invisible costs behind rewarding such behavior and not punishing them NOW altogether. Later, it would progress to stolen property, more severe robberies, and possibly even murder. Reprimanding this behavior and showing those who frequent such behavior isn’t tolerated is much needed earlier on in our surrounding neighborhoods. These neighborhoods seem to be over-filled to the brim with parents who turn a blinds eye in the direction of their child’s wrongdoing, don’t offer due care about the goings ons of their child, OR commonly, GET ANGRY AT AUTHORITY FOR DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO HELP CLEAN OUR STREETS. The crime rate in Oakland didn’t happen all on its own; it’s a collective effort that was nurtured by a level of togetherness, bond, and loyalty that DIDN’T COME FROM A PARENT’S LOVE; relationships that FLOURISHED with the desire of achievements and collaborating over several initiatives that SCHOOL and oftentimes HIGHER EDUCATION could never fulfill; GOALS, OBJECTIVES, and DREAMS quickly reached due to real promises and not the empty ones you hear from your often absent mother or father. Stop allowing the teen on the street walk free from something like “stealing a cookie.” Take immediate action without question to ensure that they learn right from wrong ESPECIALLY if this type of education is not present in their home today!

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    • bea

      After reading that the kid kicked and was violent I’m kinda inclined to agree with you. I mean people have gotten taserd to death for less.

      Theres at least one case on the web of a diabetic man that got beaten by cops when he was are mistaken for drunk (and that really easy to confuse) and there maybe more cases of that exact situation.
      A man who was actually drunk was beaten to death by police and witnesses had their cameras taken away. Who knew drunkenness was punishable by beating?
      A 16 year old boy had fallen from an overpass and Michigan police taserd him because apparently he wouldn’t comply to their demands. Yeah injured person needing immediate surgery would not comply with demands. but being taserd 19 times forced a delay in surgery by two days.

      So given the actual abuses done by bad cops and the blue wall protecting them I have to extend an apology to Oakland police because what else could they have done at this point? I mean the kid spit, kicked, and punched and they didn’t once pull out their tasers. which by the way could kill a kid.

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  21. Joanne

    Thank you, Rebecca, for posting this video.

    It is important that the police know that they cannot go around brutalizing young bodies of color without being called into question.

    Many people on this thread have argued that this incident is not a racial issue. If you have any doubt that the police systematically profile black and brown bodies, please look at this data from the NYCLU: http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data.

    Many people have also defended the police on grounds that the child is a “thief.” However, the labeling of “thief” is clearly raced, classed, and gendered. Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–yOj2VYnus.

    Regardless of whether or not the child “stole” cookies or electronics, the child is a child who, as a youth of color, has systematically been denied access to all of this country’s “social services”. Instead of criminalizing the child, we should be questioning the systems that put this child in a position where he must encounter the police at only 13 years old. It seems understandable that he was scared, upset, and confused, and was rationally resisting his arrest. This does not make him “uncontrollable”, and certainly does not make him an “animal.” The police should not be treating any human being in this way, particularly not a kid who’s been failed by this country’s social/political/legal systems.

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    • Paul

      He was not failed by society. This child was failed by his parents. His parents need to teach this young man that there are consequences for your actions.

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    • isthisnecessary

      @Paul, thank you! My belief, my truth…exactly. As I am a teacher, my “job” is to fix many problems that parents and occasionally society has caused. I have no doubt his parents are at fault. If I’d done the same, WOW, my mama would have WOOP’D my azz.. Children need to respect La Familia …

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    • paul

      isthisnecessary: yup, my parents, too… and not only would I have been in so much trouble at home, my parents would have been *mortified* because of the shame and disappointment I brought to the family.

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  22. born in oakland

    Having a son the same age as this boy, I would have to say it would be happy to see my boy treated this way. It would show him, this is not the type of behavior that his community tolerates. A 13 year old, is not a little kid, not knowing right from wrong. Yes, he still is a child, but one that should know that stealing is wrong. Obviously, this boy hasn’t learned that. Something that his parents need to deal with.

    People are always going with the race deal. Yes, I would agree black and latinos get harsher treatment when they are suspected of a crime. Might be because the majority of the crimes in Oakland are made by persons of those races. It doesn’t help that every day you read in the paper, some one gets robbed or burglarized, you find the suspects are someone with dark complexion, dark clothes.

    I know many young people of color and instead of crime, they’ve chosen the right path through education. They understand what having strong morals gets you. They all have parents/family that care and make sure they stay on the right path.

    We shouldn’t always be blaming the cops. They’re doing their job in this video. I’m happy they caught the kid and showed him a lesson. A lesson he obviously wasn’t getting at home. It’s the parents of this boy that need to be reprimanded. Not the police.

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  23. jennyfromtheblock

    had i been caught stealing anything – my mother would have beaten me senseless – she did on a couple of occasions. i would have loved to have been wrapped up like a burrito. just sayin’

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  24. T Evans

    You all bitch and moan about the police and their actions until you need them to assist you and then their behaviour is okay.

    Break the law, suffer the consequences.

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  25. Michelle

    If the child did act and do what they say he did he deserved it and I would feel the same way if it were my child as long as they didn’t beat him but if he is acting crazy heck yeah he should be restrained however necessary. Being arrested regardless of your age shouldn’t be fun it is to teach you a lesson. If you are easy on the criminal they won’t mind going and doing it again. He is lucky he didn’t get shot by the homeowner that’s when it would be tragic but still his own fault

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  26. Eilieen Eulich

    Some people are saying ‘they should have just let him go’ if he was throwing a tantrum. What lesson would that teach him, or the other 13-16 year old ‘children’ who commit burglary/robbery on a daily basis in Oakland? So they hand cuff him (perfectly reasonable), he slips out of the cuffs and begins bashing away at the windows of the squad car. At this point he’s a danger to himself, and the cops are liable for any injury he GIVES HIMSELF! These guys are damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Now they will be sued for ‘hogtying’ the boy (actually just restraining a person going completely mental), which they seem to be doing in a pretty calm manner in the video. But if the kid slashed his wrists in the car, they would also be sued.
    So what do you want the OPD to do in this case? Let him go so they don’t have these misleading videos posted? That’s not what I want them to do. This kid obviously has major problems, he needs the social welfare system to help and monitor him. His parents haven’t been doing that. Have you noticed any outcry from them?
    It’s so easy to cast this as ‘bully cops versus innocent (black) boy’, but it just isn’t that simple. People of color complain that nothing is being done to ‘stop the violence’ in their communities. Well, they aren’t doing it themselves through proper parenting/guidance/leadership.. So the OPD is forced to take action. They have an incredibly hard job and I’m happy they are out there.

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    • Abbi

      I wouldn’t say there are no people of color trying to do anything. that one kid’s parents, I don’t know what their deal is. they could be the parents of a randomly violent but brilliant sociopath and get no support, or they can in denial parents of a boy who has learned he can get away with stuff to that point.

      but the point is that people of all colors are trying to do stuff to help and they simply are not responsible for every single kid that doesn’t listen to them or the parents that don’t try or can’t to get their kids to them.

      really we are all humans before we are colors and its up to individuals to try to respect other people and their property and not act violent in a situation where they are not in danger. If more people did, the cops wouldn’t have had to resort to this.

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  27. Mike from Madrone

    What is truly sad is that there are so many people educated enough to actually operate on the internet that can see a completely calm and professional police force and think it is excessive force. I love the comment about being wrapped like a burrito to protect the kid from the wrath of the parent. I sure would have wanted that at that age. If the parent didn’t want to just “slap that idiot kid upside the head” for the humiliation and aggravation of having to go to the station, I would wonder about their emotional reality. Yes we need to support our kids but when life wears you down who has the energy most of the time to think about “proper parenting”. You can love them after, but that slap might just be faster and more effective. Kudos to OPD and shame on the apologists, the little ahole was being a punk and got a lot less that he deserved. Having been a idiot in the past, I always knew that whatever I got I deserved, fortunately i didn’t have the likes of the videographer to make me think I was a “victim”.

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